GOP Teams up with the Church in Ohio

So much for the supposed separation of church and state. As I flipped through Sunday’s Toledo Blade newspaper two full-page ads stunned me. First was a repeat of an earlier ad featuring a large photo of Billy Graham with his not-so subtle message to Christians about voting, suggesting that ‘biblical principles’ ought to be their guide in the voting booth. Those ‘principles’ naturally are listed in the 2012 GOP platform. Parents stoning a lying child, however, gains a bye.

Then there was the gray-on-white full-page, anti-Obama ad paid for by Ohio Right to Life: HE FORCED CATHOLICS TO PAY FOR ABORTIONS. This is in addition to the yard signs scattered on the lawns of Catholics that cry, ‘Religious Freedom.’


For years now the GOP has conservative Christians on a tight leash, barking out voting mandates to the sheep. Baaa.

This year’s GOP nominee, interestingly, has been a lifelong Mormon whose beliefs stem way back [or not so far back] to the ‘discovery’ in 1827  of golden plates ‘buried’ in a hill near Rochester, New York. Oddly, the ‘writings’ on the plates were in a strange and untranslatable language.  Luckily, a nearby angel, Moroni, acted as translator. When he was alive 2500 years ago, Moroni buried them there in the hills of Rochester, hoping that somebody would stumble upon them.  As luck would have it, Joseph Smith tripped over one of them projecting a few inches above the dirt.  Rather than selling them to a gold dealer or to an antiquities collector, he gave them back to the angel after the translation who whisked them off into Heaven.

Yes, I know what you are thinking, but consider this: it appears that racial bigotry is a much stronger visceral emotion than religious tolerance. In fact, a recent AP poll released October 28, found that racial prejudice has increased since 2008. Today, 51 percent of Americans now express explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48 percent in a similar 2008 survey. ” When measured by an implicit racial attitudes test, the number of Americans with anti-black sentiments jumped to 56 percent, up from 49 percent during the last presidential election.”

Racial intolerance trumps religious intolerance.

There you have it: conservative Christians will choose a white Mormon over a black traditional Christian.



27 thoughts on “GOP Teams up with the Church in Ohio

  1. At the end of his life, Roy Roger’s wife Dale would appear on the evangelical talk shows and quote her husband. He would never appear in person, but his wife Dale sure quoted him a lot. Have you noticed that Billy Graham’s statements are always in print, but never audio. And his son, Franklin, seems to always be at his side when Billy Graham makes personal (but not recorded) appearances? And why after decades of referring to Mormonism* as a cult, did “someone” remove that definition from Graham’s website after a recent meeting with Romney?

    I don’t think racism has gotten worse, it’s just the bigots have crawled out from under their rocks and become much more obvious. The “anti” groups always seem to appear stronger when change happens. Fifty years ago it was “uncool” to say something racist, but the Teabaggers have encouraged that type of behavior.

    * I wanted to understand why the blacks were demanding all this freedom, so I took Black American History at U.T. When I learned what the true facts were, I began to understand a whole lot more. While reading some of the posse blogs, I wondered where they came up with some of their stories so I researched and learned (good grief can they screw up history). So when Romney became the Republican candidate and people started making a big deal about his religion, I learned about Mormonism. I always try to keep an open accepting mind, but lordy, lordy those people are scary. And some want more religion in government?

  2. What’s happening to the Obama lead in Ohio, M_R?

    MSNBC, the pro-Obama and Democratic Party channel has early voting
    in Ohioat 2 to 1 for Obama…I believe the other day you posted a 3-1 lead.

    Second, Real Clear Politics has Obama up by 1.9% and falling

    Care to comit on these two reports?

  3. Another cause of concern is with the “undecided” numbers… It is running
    at 5% in Ohio and other swing states. With only 8 days to go that seems
    like a high number of people not sure on how they are going to vote. It
    seems to me either they don’t intend to vote, OR, and this is more
    important, they intend to vote against Obama, if they do vote, on the
    basis of race.

    What areobservbing in the Lucas County area? Are the early voting lines long? Are the 18-24 turn out in high numbers? Are you getting more new and young votes this year than in 2008?

  4. For Ohio to be in the Obama win column, I read a report that Obama has
    to, must, beat his totals that he received in 5 Ohio counties. These counties
    are Cuyahoga(Cleveland), Lucas(Toledo), Hamilton(Cincinnati), Montgomery(Columbus), and one more (maybe Dayton?). How is this
    developing in Lucas County with the early voting?

  5. Here is a statement in the AP report on race:

    “Overall, the survey found that by virtue of racial prejudice, Obama could lose 5 percentage points off his share of the popular vote in his Nov. 6 contest against Republican challenger Mitt Romney. However, Obama also stands to benefit from a 3 percentage point gain due to pro-black sentiment, researchers said. Overall, that means an estimated net loss of 2 percentage points due to anti-black attitudes.

    The poll finds that racial prejudice is not limited to one group of partisans.

    Although Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit racism (79 percent among Republicans compared with 32 percent among Democrats), the implicit test found little difference between the two parties.

    Advertise | AdChoicesThat test showed a majority of both Democrats and Republicans held anti-black feelings (55 percent of Democrats and 64 percent of Republicans), as did about half of political independents (49 percent).”

  6. For those of you who missed church this morning, here’s this to make up for it:

  7. M_R, you are being alarmingly quiet in answering my questions about the
    Romney gains in Ohio…I could care less if Obama is at 50% in October, it
    it November that counts, especially on the 6th, right.

    Kasich today predicted a Romney win. I hope that we won’t be having a
    wake on election night.

    1. I am alarmingly quiet because, at this point in the game, philosophy and guessing is worthless. The only thing that matters is the boots on the ground and I have been very busy preparing for all of that next weekend.

      1. Romney must be scared of the “boots on the ground” because this ad, full of falsehoods, aired yesterday in Toledo:

  8. Yes, you have a big area to cover, M_R.

    NON, just saw Chuck Todd on Morning Joe say that the Cincinnati
    newspaper has it 49-49. It’s called something like the Ohio Poll of Polls,
    averages out the various State polls or something…Todd says that it is one of the more accurate Polls.

  9. IMPORTANT TALKING POINT: Remember when Romney went to Israel a few weeks ago and talked about the United States backing any attacks on Iran? He got a lot of people fired up against the America and set the tone for anti-U.S. violence. In the next few days the Romney camp is going to work overtime to criticize any Federal response the Hurricane Sandy, no matter what damage that kind of talk will do. Just remember that Romney not only wants to shut down the Education Department, the E.P.A. and N.P.R./P.B.S., he also wants to defund F.E.M.A.

  10. Yes, we are all waiting to see exactly how the bishop is going to take advantage of Sandy as a political “opportunity”. He’s blown it when ever he tries to use these tactics, but that doesn’t stop him because for him it’s the bigger picture, the big lie repeated over and over again to his base who want to believe that they believe in something….I noticed today that he was forced to change the line in his Chrysler moving to Japan scare campaign because too many people are now aware of the lie…
    I guess that Romney has opened the door to his own alternative reality and we are being suckered in…sure, we all know that politicians and lie and we can’t trust him, but in Romney World, he;s the only politician you can really trust, because you know he’s lying all the time!
    And here is my extra added bonus video to keep us on the topic of this post…The Ecclesiastical Fashion Show from Frederico Fellini’s Roma! I saw this movie in Toledo when it came out and me and my friends were the only persons in the Theater:

    1. Just saw the ad this morning on 13 and it still contained the quote from Bloomberg*.

      *One hour after posting the quote (and both the U.A.W. & Chrysler complained), Bloomberg took the quote down.

  11. I have seen a couple of Conservative blogs, that recently started questioning the electoral process, especially the Electoral College. This struck me as odd, considering that the same Conservatives in the past have argued in favor of the EC, and it’s constitutionality. Off course this struck me as ODD, until I read this article…….
    After doing a little more research on the subject, I found that there is a very good possibility that Romney wins the popular vote, but Obama winning the electorate, hands down. So is this popular vote enlightenment new? Did these Conservatives finally see the error of there ways? Seems to me that the Electoral College worked well enough for them in 2000.

    I would assume that the Electoral College works well for the Conservatives, but after this election, we may see a turn in there opinion

    1. The ten largest states make up 64% of the U.S. population. 102 out of a total of 538 Electoral College votes are not based on population. The 10 largest states, 64% of the population, get only 19% (20) of those extra 102 votes. The remaining 79% (83) of those votes go the the less populated states, 36% of total population, and the vast majority of those states have hardcore conservative political systems.

      What makes the Electoral College even more skewed is the fact that only 2 states award votes according to votes cast. The other 48 states and District of Columbia are a winner take all proposition.

      435 Congresspersons from 50 states awarded by population
      100 Senators, 2 from each state
      3 from the District of Columbia awarded as if it were a state
      No votes awarded to U.S. territories

      538 Total Electoral College Votes
      Tie in Electoral College goes to House of Representatives, including D.C. representive
      Tie in House goes to each state vote where each state gets only 1 vote, no matter their population

      1. Thank you for the report NON. The Electoral College seems skewed on quite a few levels. Personally, I am in favor of the popular vote. With today’s technology, there is no reason at all that the winner should NOT be the one with the most “popular” votes. With the Electorate process, it seems that some votes do not even matter. That doesn’t seem right to me.
        Now we are seeing a turn. Bloggers that I have debated with in the past, have defended our electoral process. IF Romney wins the popular vote, but loses the election, I’m guessing we will see a complete and utter outcry for a change. I’m willing to bet that these same people didn’t make a peep 12 years ago.

  12. If the GOP supports the EC and its place in the Constitution, when then does
    NO state have the EC to determine their elections…All States use popular vote! Yet, both political parties support keeping the EC…What was that about “not a dime’s worth of difference”?

    1. What was that about “not a dime’s worth of difference”?

      On THAT issue, a dime. Yet on a 100 others, it’s $1000.

      1. Taking away the fact that you live in a swing state. Do you find the Electoral College to be a fair practice?

    2. UTF- Of course both parties support the EC. It has been argued that the EC gives disproportionate influence to swing states. The popular votes in any given state do not go to the individual candidate, They go to electors who have pledged to specific candidates.
      IMO, one of the biggest flaws of the EC is that the electors are not bound “By Law” to uphold their pledge. Thus, you may have a state that is overwhelmingly in favor of Obama, but casts it electoral votes for Romney, and vice versa. This rarely, if ever happens. But it is a possibility.
      I think we live in a modern enough time, that the Presidency can be decided by a true popular vote.

  13. Just learned of another “Koch” snake in the grass:
    The American Petroleum Institute (API)

    Been reading articles on how the Koch brothers use many different names to hide their identity when trying to influence the activities of our government.

  14. We’ve all seen the bombardment of ads on TV, but these are the facts”

    “Obama leads Ohio in 7 polls released in past 48 hours”

    Seems the ground game is paying off. Thank you.

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