Will the South Rise Again?

The Arkansas Times ran a story last year titled, The South shall rise again:New state rep: Confederate flag ‘a symbol of Jesus Christ.‘ The article focuses on  Republican Loy Mauch, elected to represent House District 26 near Hot Springs. A former head of the Sons of the Confederate Veterans post in Hot Springs, Mauch calls the Confederate flag “a symbol of Jesus Christ,” and is a current member of The League of the South, a group which works toward the formation of an independent Southern nation. Board member Jack Kershaw of The League of the South is quoted saying, ““Somebody needs to say a good word for slavery. Where in the world are the Negroes better off today than in America?”

Imagine that.

During Ole Miss’s winning streak of 2003, students and fans alike began chanting “The South will rise again” in place of “His truth is marching on” at the end of the song, Dixie. That practice was ‘banned’ in 2009 although it can still be heard by some in the stands.

The phrase is attributed to Sen. Alfred Iverson of Georgia who, in his final speech to the senate in January 1861 said,

You may whip us, but we will not stay whipped.    We will rise again and again to vindicate our right to liberty, and throw off your oppressive and accursed yoke, and never cease the mortal strife until our whole white race is extinguished and our fair land given over to desolation.

Our whole white race, he said. Moral strife, too.

As most of us who post here know, it was 104 years later, at the stroke of the pen of President Lyndon Johnson, a southerner, that shifted The South from solid Democratic to solid Republican. Civil Rights Law.

Back to that election in Arkansas: Mauch calls the Confederate flag “a symbol of Jesus Christ.” Interestingly, he voted in favor of allowing hand guns in places of worship. Jesus and guns. If only Jesus and his disciples had had guns, eh? He also voted yea on a proposal for ‘Curriculum Standards for Bible Instruction in School Districts.’ Praise Jesus, students.

Guns, God and Glory. Is that what the ‘rise’ is all about? What would a risen South look like anyway?

“The Southern League supports a return to a political and social system based on kith and kin rather than an impersonal state wedded to the idea of the universal rights of man. At its core is a European population.”
— Michael Hill, essay on League of the South website, 2000

Kith and kin.  What the hell does that mean?

Don’t suppose that I am unaware of racism here in the North. It is everyhere, not solely found south of the Mason-Dixon. Yet, it seems so casual, so natural there. A natural right, so to speak. It is as if the 13th, 14th and 15 Amendments did not exist as well as the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

“We also encourage individuals and families to personally secede from the corrupt and corrupting influence of post-Christian culture in America. We call this ‘abjuring the realm,’ and it’s a real and dramatic first step all of us can take by simply withdrawing our support of and allegiance to a regime that has imperiled our future. … Once our Southern culture is re-established, then the political issues will begin to take care of themselves. Good leaders flow naturally out of a healthy culture; however, power-hungry, self-seeking politicians are all we can expect from the debased cultural climate we have today.”
— League of the South website

Once our Southern culture is re-established…

Let me ask: is this idea above common throughout the white south or is it only a blip on the radar, an isolated group of racial bigots?

In November, 2008, President Obama’s presidential victory upset James and Linda Vandiver in Huntsville Alabama. On election night, the couple — owners of the historic Faubus Motel in downtown Huntsville — walked outside, lowered Old Glory and raised the Confederate battle flag in its place. It’s remained there ever since, flying high in silent protest of election to the nation’s highest office a politician the pair says is a “Marxist.”

Marxist they say. Apparently ‘Marxist’ is a new cover for slavery, southern heritage and white supremacy.

Rep. Mauch wrote,  “The government has lost its moral authority over God-fearing Americans and I wish more patriots like James Vandiver would take their stand for what the Confederate Battle Flag truly symbolizes.” 

What does the Confederate Battle Flag symbolize? What secret message does it carry?

What event would begin the Second Secession of the South?



19 thoughts on “Will the South Rise Again?

  1. Pretty amazing stuff. Here’s a link to their website:


    (NOTE: It’s an Arkansas House District he represents. I was kind of blown away when I thought it was U.S. House District. Still, it’s bad enough that over 7,000 people voted for him.)

      1. “Will the South Rise Again?”

        Hasn’t it already? LBJ said that the South would be lost for a
        generation…He was wrong…It has been two generations now!

          1. limited government
            low taxes
            God’s Only Party(GOP)
            Foreign Affairs ala tough policies or out right war
            Gun Rights
            Individual over Grouup

      2. “… I’m quite sure that there are people just like him in the U.S. House.”

        Now why did you have to go and say that?

        (You mean like Bob Latta.)

  2. Ayyiyiyi!

    It’s a confederate BATTLE FLAG!

    What would be the message sent by flying a Nazi Flag?

    These are people who defend slavery.

    Didn’t some people learn their lesson during the last civil war? or does it need to be repeated with more deadly weaponry the last time? How could anyone have a taste for war?

    1. You’d think, Laci, that no one would have a ‘taste for war,’ but you do recall the Neocons and GW Bush circa 2003.

      Do you also recall that old Christian hymn, Onward Christian Soldiers?

      Then, of course, there is the KKK as well as militias.

      Lots of people here in the Land of the Free enjoy hating people unlike themselves. And, with our rather unrestricted firearms laws, they can do great damage in a short amount of time.

      Did I mention the Gunnutz?

  3. We will probably be hearing a lot more from the following writer,
    prosecutor, and special inspector general over TARP. Neil Barofsky, is the name, and he has just published “Bailout”.

    Barofsky was appointed by the Bush Administration to be a watchdog of the $700 BILLION rescue of the fi9nancial services
    indstry, aka as Wall Street. It is a dpressing account of how the
    Bush and Obama Administrations have mishandled the entire program at the expense of us, the ((%.

    His bood shows how our Treasury and Commerce Departments meant to protect us, actually do the bidding the financial services
    industry. Apparently, he went in with clean hands, wanting to do the work of an inspector general of protecting the public from
    waste and fraud. He was soon told that this was not the way he
    would operate if he valued his future in government. In other
    words, everyone is to scratch one another’s back and see, hear or
    say any wrong doing… Geithner supposedly said the money was
    to provide foam on the runway for the banks. Egads!

    Treasury kept trying to keep him from investigating TARP for
    fraud, waste and abuse. In a recent interview, Barofsky said,
    “The suspicions that the system is rigged in favor of the largest
    banks and their elites, so they play by their own set of rules to the
    disfavor of the taxpayers who funded their bailout, are true…It
    really happened. These suspicions are valid.” On many of his
    recommendations, Treasury put up barriers, roadblock, out right
    refusal to establish safeguards. The usual response of Treasury
    to Baroksky’s suggestions was stone walled with statements like
    “they would gut the programs and reduce participation.”

    Looks like a must read book, folks! If both political parties and
    in collusion against the 99%, how are we ever going to change
    the system. The system is corrupt and dysfunctional for the vast majority of the population. Yet, the majority refuses to see
    it and continue returning the same crooks back to D.C. To
    quote, M_R, “Go Figure!”

    1. Unfortunately, UTF, US elections are set up so that one needs money to run. You think the reason they are so interminable is based upon everyone having a chance to meet the candidate in this day of telecommunications?

  4. So what do we see in this country? We see lies, greed, cheating,
    unscrupulousness, etc. Americans have lost a sense of trust in
    their government(s), it seems to me. From 2001 to 2012, our
    governments have failed. If you doubt, look at the favorability
    rating of the various governmental branches.

    People don’t think about in the many ways that government is
    working. We can flysafely, eat clean food, receive safe medicinne, travel our highways, and hundreds of other things. But, that is
    not what the people focus on. And, in a way, it seems we don’t see
    all that as government You know what I mean with that? Is that
    possible? After the earthquakes in the mid Atlantic States a year or
    two ago, you will recall cracks appeared in the Washington Monument and it was closed down to protect people, and a firm
    was called in to evaluate it, and then fix it for our safety again.
    Yet, some way some how it seems Americans don’t see that as
    their government at work. I visited the Statue of Liberty a couple
    of years ago, a wonderful experience, but we could not go inside
    the Statute because of repairs to the arm of the torch…That has
    been completed now and it is once again availiable.

    What American see is unemployment , debt, and deficits. They see the profits increasing on Wall Street. They saw Paulson, Bernanke,
    and Geithner scamming the system…They pulled a number out
    of the air for TARP, “We just wanted it to be BIG.” In 2008, Obmaa promised Hope and Change, and all we have got is rhetoric and coninuation of many of Bush”s policies. Then in 2010 The GOP said vote us in and we will create the jobs, and cure iunemployment
    with lower taxes and less regulations…And what do the people see? The economy slowing down again.

    Just think, people saw the 2000 begin with the Supreme Court,
    supposed bastion of non political ideolgy, electing a Republican
    President by all five GOP justices for the GOP candidate. There goes that trust. Then came Enron and World Com. Now, can’t trust corporations. Then, comes 9-11, and we can’t trust government with our national security. That lead to two unpaid for wars, in Afghanistan and Iraq. Then came Katrina and we see the feeble response of government again. Next was “irrational exhuberance and the housing bu bble. . This all lead to the financial collapse of 2008. We saw our savings threatneed, we witnessed the declining value of our retirement plans, and the collapse of our home value.

    And if the government side wasnt bad enough in losing trust. look at the fall of relgion as with the abuse in the Catholic Church, our Universityies with the Penn State scandel, Professional Skports with drugs and contracts on opposing players

    Its a dsecade of failure of religion, spo-orts, economy, our politics, the military, our national security,. It is all collapsing around us. And what does D.C. do? How are people to believe in government any more?There is no public trust..what is to be done?

    1. It is all collapsing around us. And what does D.C. do?

      What do they do? Look for financial donations to their reelection campaigns.

  5. In case anyone in Northwest Ohio wants to volunteer for the Obama re-election campaign:

    What: It Takes One weekend of action event in Toledo

    Where: 4833 Dorr St.
    Toledo, OH 43615

    When: Saturday, July 28th
    10:00 am

      1. Well, the exercise will do you good. As I have said before, your
        time is more important at this stage, than out knocking on doors
        or bothering people on the phone.

        Here is a possible question you might receive…How would you
        respond? Why should I vote for this idiot. I am making less than I did four years ago…I am in the mortgage banking business and all that is happening is home prices are declining and people can’t even afford to refinance their home, let alone buy a new home.
        Obama has ruined my business and lower my income….

        1. “I am in the mortgage banking business…”

          I was in the business and Reagan’s deregulation killed that industry off. There was no way we could compete with the big banks. And the banks handling mortgage banking caused the collapse. It’s a lot harder the keep an honest eye on things when they get so complicated and/or details are easily hidden.

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