LiveStreaming from Manhattan

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  1. Again, there is a good political cartoon on the editoral page of the Jackson Clarion-Ledger for Saturday. It shows a little guy with one of those large
    squirt guns with “occupy” written on it, pointed at a Wall Street man in swim
    trunks, saying “Is that all you’ve got Kid?” But, coming up behind him is a huge tidal wave with “PUBLIC SENTIMENT” written on it!

    Now, M_R, how about that for the Deep South Bible Belt that you like to
    chastize so often? Yep, and it is event current, yesterday. Wonder if the Blade has weighed in?

    And, of course, we now have the Mayor of NY, Michael Bloomberg,
    commenting that the demonstration is counter productive because of the
    tens of thousands of middle class workers who are employed by Wall
    Street. Yeah, you know, this multi-billionaire who has seen his stock
    double while he has been in office.He says the demonstrators are not
    taking into account the thousands of receptionists, janitors, secretaries,
    and other paper shufflers who work on Wall Street. Now, isn’t it
    amazing, my friends, that not one Wall Street corporate leader has been
    arrested for their role in the financial collapse of the entire country, but
    Bloomberg has had nearly 800 of the demonstrators arrested. Just maybe this will be that tidal wave, M_R…….

    1. Here is report from NBC NEWS:

      “Closed captioning of: Protesting in the streetsAdvertise | AdChoices>>> what began as a protest on wall street in manhattan, new york has grown today to demonstrations nation-wide against corporate greed . from new york to l.a., even up in maine, people took to the streets to express their anger and make sure their message is heard. but what exactly is their message? we sent nbc’s michelle franzen to find out.

      >> reporter: two weeks and counting. several hundred faithful protestors continue to camp out at a park near wall street . their numbers grow each day, fuelled by the power of social media . a few scuffles with nypd and the common threat of discontent over high unemployment and distrust of government and corporations.

      >> there’s something unjust going on right now in this economy, in this society.

      >> reporter: john drove from connecticut to speak out.

      >> because we can’t pay for big expensive lobbyists to work for what we want.

      >> reporter: the sit-in has turned into a small community, complete with a food kitchen and media center . but by design, there is no one leader of this group. and no organized set of demands.

      >> we each do our own thing but we’re doing it together. we’re coming together and we’re saying, things need to be changed. how are you going to do this.

      >> reporter: protestors may still be working to define their message, but the complaints of corporate greed and social inequality are resonating far beyond the streets of new york . in los angeles today, protestors took to the streets to show solidarity.

      >> i can’t travel to dc or to new york so i think it’s great that we are doing this in states across the united states .

      >> reporter: even in portland, maine, 100 people turned out. the movement, labor experts say, is also gaining the attention of high-profile activists like michael moore and union leaders, backing that could elevate the conversation to the political stage.
      Let’s hope it does move to the political stage, and people finally realize
      that they can throw every single one of the bums out of Congress. What does it take to wake you up, M_R? This is the cause we may have been
      waiting for…..

      >> this is a liberal version of the tea party especially with young people who are getting mobilized and expressing their grievances. i think this could potentially carry over into the 2012 elections and get people to the polls.

      >> reporter: so far, the protestors say they

  2. UTF, actually, I posted this, this morning. For such a long time, on this blog as well as everywhere else, we have heard about the apathy of the so called Progressive Movement, or what does it take to get people in the street. Well, now people are in the street…it’s like a kid with the keys to the car for the first time…”well, now where should we go?”
    I have been following this from France and it seems with each day the goals become more defined and the people speaking are becoming more eloquent.
    This will become the stage for the 2012 election. To compare this to the Tea brains is not quite apt, as the Tea Party is a co opted, corporate funded media phenomena. I’m sure most of the Tea Brains are watching this unfold from their Knotty pine paneled bunkers on their wide screen televisions muttering, “It’s not right……”

    1. I wondered who posted. It didn’t seem to be a M_R post, lol!

      There seems to be two weaknesses in the demonstrations so far. One is
      that there is no leader. The second is that they don’t have any clear
      positions, or a numerated platform, such as lets say, restore the Clinton tax rate and restore the Glass-Steagle Act. I will list another one or two in a
      follow-up comment.

  3. Also, I have been seeing the Ron Paulistas trying to own this and getting shut down in every venue they express their meme that Ron Paul has been saying this all along….

  4. Hello All,
    When I watched the news and video clips from New York, I take the viewpoint that we have seen these “Workers Middle Class” street marching demonstrations all before with the arrests, physical abuses, and even death costs being suffered to the working middle class and poor.

    1. In the time period 1789 – 1799 we saw not only the French Revolution but how it cascaded across Europe. The radical social and political upheavals in history saw a series of major changes in power and political system. Those few years were dominated by tensions between various liberal assemblies and right wing monarchies intent on thwarting major reforms.

    2. In 1917 Russia had been suffering from a number of economic and social problems, which were compounded by the impact of World War I. The separation of those “Who Have” and those “Who Have Not” was becoming more defined (no middle class) with the gap growing wider. The spontaneously out break bread marches in Russia in February 1917 where many were cut down in the streets. This revolution appeared to break out without any real leadership or formal planning. Bread rioters and industrial strikers spontaneously joined in the streets but were cut down by a Calvary drawn saber charge from the soldiers from the city’s garrison.

    3. The United States has their own repeat example of these street protest that ended badly for the Middle Class marchers. By the 1930’s the U.S. economy had plunged into the worst depression in U.S. history. The 1929 stock market crash which marked the beginning of the Great Depression ushered in a period of immiseration for virtually the entire working class. By 1932 it was estimated that 75 percent of the population was living in poverty, and fully one-third was unemployed. And in many places, Black unemployment rates were two, three, or even four times those of white workers.

    But the richest people in society felt no sympathy for the starving masses. They had spent the previous decade slashing wages and breaking unions, with widespread success. By 1929, the American Federation of Labor (AFL) had lost a million members.

    With the onset of depression, they banded together as a group to oppose every measure to grant government assistance to feed the hungry or help the homeless. Most employers flatly refused to bargain with any union, and used the economic crisis as an excuse to slash all wages across the board. But in so doing, they unleashed the greatest period of social upheaval that has ever taken place in the United States.

    When faced with working-class opposition, the ruling class responded with violence. Police repeatedly fired upon hunger marchers in the early 1930s. In 1932, for example, the Detroit police mowed down a hunger demonstration of several thousand, using machine guns. Four demonstrators were killed and more than 60 were injured. Yet afterward a city prosecutor said, “I say I wish they’d killed a few more of those damn rioters.”

    In 1933, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt granted workers the right to organize into unions in Section 7(a) of the National Recovery Act, and workers rushed to join unions. But everywhere the employers put up violent resistance. In 1934, when 400,000 East Coast textile workers went on strike to win union recognition, the bosses responded with a reign of terror, provoking one of the bitterest and bloodiest strikes in U.S. labor history.

    In the South, the ruling class unleashed a torrent of racism and anti-communism, while armed mobs attacked strikers. The Gastonia Daily Gazette ran “Communism in the South. Kill it!” as a front-page headline. Employers distributed anti-union leaflets that read, “Would you belong to a union which opposes White supremacy?”

    In Gastonia, North Carolina, National Guardsmen joined by armed strikebreakers, were ordered to “shoot to kill” unarmed strikers. Without warning came the first shots, followed by many others, and for a few minutes there was bedlam. Striker after striker fell to the ground, with the cries of wounded men sounding over the field and men and women running shrieking from the scene.

    In Burlington, North Carolina, soldiers bayoneted five picketers in a group of 400, all of whom were wearing “peaceful picket” badges.

    In the North, the battle was no less violent, when National Guard troops occupied mill towns all over New England. Rhode Island’s Democratic governor declared that “there is a communist uprising and not a textile strike in Rhode Island,” and called the legislature into special session to declare a state of insurrection and request federal troops.

    Although the strikers fought back heroically, they lost the strike. Thousands of strikers lost their jobs; others were forced to sign pledges to leave the union.

    So in conclusion, people marching in the streets to protest the over lopsided representation in government and economic rewards verses the starving poor has always been at the cost of arrests and death to those “Who Have Not.” The well off or “Who Haves” need not worry too much on physical harm unless they see the guillotine being pulled out.

  5. Sorry not to have replied, but I am north of France at the moment and unaware of anything to do with the USA. I’m quite pleased with the goings-on back home and I hope it spreads. It’s about time that the fat-cats get their share of the pain they caused to the average schlep!
    Limited computer access so until next time…

  6. In my neighborhood? Actually, I am in the central southwest….but nice to know we are on the same continent and country!
    Here’s the official Declaration of The New York Occupation:

    As we gather together in solidarity to express a feeling of mass injustice, we must not lose sight of what brought us together. We write so that all people who feel wronged by the corporate forces of the world can know that we are your allies.

    As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality: that the future of the human race requires the cooperation of its members; that our system must protect our rights, and upon corruption of that system, it is up to the individuals to protect their own rights, and those of their neighbors; that a democratic government derives its just power from the people, but corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth; and that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations, which place profit over people, self-interest over justice, and oppression over equality, run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here, as is our right, to let these facts be known.

    They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage.

    They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses.

    They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual orientation.

    They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization.

    They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices.

    They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions.

    They have held students hostage with tens of thousands of dollars of debt on education, which is itself a human right.

    They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay.

    They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility.

    They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance.

    They have sold our privacy as a commodity.

    They have used the military and police force to prevent freedom of the press. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit.

    They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce.

    They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them.

    They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil.

    They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit.

    They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.

    They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media.

    They have accepted private contracts to murder prisoners even when presented with serious doubts about their guilt.

    They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.

    They continue to create weapons of mass destruction in order to receive government contracts. *

    To the people of the world,

    We, the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square, urge you to assert your power.

    Exercise your right to peaceably assemble; occupy public space; create a process to address the problems we face, and generate solutions accessible to everyone.

    To all communities that take action and form groups in the spirit of direct democracy, we offer support, documentation, and all of the resources at our disposal.

    Join us and make your voices heard!

    *These grievances are not all-inclusive.

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  8. Hello Microdot,
    I liked your posting above listing the grievances of those taking to the streets today. I think that I will also say that this current marching in the streets has the exact same potential for the abuse and deaths that has happened in the 1930’s.

    For the last 30 years well funded special interest have nibbled away at the middle class’s “workers rights” to the point when we woke up, most of the safeguards were gone. The sad part is now we are going to have to repeat the long hard fight to regain what our fathers and grandfathers had won for us back then.

    Today like then, these are going to be long, hard fought issues to regain what was once considered as being the basic rights deserved.

    By the way, welcome back home. I did miss you my friend.

  9. NEWS UPDATE: After being personally called out on UNCOMMON SQUALOR, I challenged the blog author to a “truth out” for a factual chronological listing of events regarding the dual operations of GUN RUNNER and FAST AND FURIOUS.

    This Sepp person deleted my comment. He and his associates are unworthy of any discussion and it’s a shame such people can actually cast a vote regarding issues that affect the rest of us normal people.

  10. My question is why NYC for the demonstration? The problem is in D.C., isn’t
    it? It is the politicians that need to be pressurized. Washington is bereft
    of leadership. The GOP gives us 9 bills on abortion, and Obama gives us
    gimmicks. The JOBS bill is a farce, just another short term fix to get him
    re-elected. It seems to me, anything less than a a million person march on
    the Capital is not serious. What, we have roughly 20 MILLION people
    unemployed or under-employed and we can’t get at least a million into D.C.?
    Wonder if our newly created professional army will fire on them? We have
    to remember that our military is no longer responsible “We, the People” any
    longer. They follow the “man on horseback” now!

  11. why NYC? why not everywhere? Toledo Oct. 10th! Coming to a city near you soon! This will end up in DC, you can be sure of that. This will leave the phony tea baggers choking on the dust….

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