Where Were the Tea Party Protesters?

I find it terribly odd that only now, with Obama as president, that some people are joining  the Tea Party rallies to publicly protest the ‘issues.’  For those long, terrible Bush-Cheney years they sat in their houses watching the clouds roll by. Their silence was deafening.
…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………… Why didn’t they make a homemade sign in 2005 or 2007 or 2003 or whatever Bush-Cheney year and go to the street corner and show the passers-by how angry they were about the economic and military policies of the Bush-Cheney Administration?
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Where were they?
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And now one of them is chiding  me for not coming out to protest with them. Incredible.
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I was there, Sepp, in the cold winter of 2002 and 2003 showing my disdain and my fear of Bush and Cheney as they ramped up their phony war on Iraq. I was there with my “NO WAR!” homemade sign, freezing my ass and toes off, getting jeered, sworn at, fingered and spat-on.
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I’ve been there, Sepp, but those “REAL PATRIOTS” out there shouted us down, told us that we were Saddam-lovers, and called us communists and told us to go back where we came from!
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Your Tea crowd, Sepp, those folks who today again carry the flag, play patriotic songs, and carrying ‘fascist’ signs.  Your people who flipped us off and rolled down their windows to yell insults at us.  Your oh-so righteous Tea Party folks who ‘believe’ that Obama is the Devil and voted Bush-Cheney for 8 years.
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And now they stand there as if they have something really important to say to America?
Were they asleep?  Did they think that the war would be free- free of blood and money? Dopes!  How much blood?  How many billions or is that trillions?
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Patriots indeed.  They soaked up the propaganda like a dry sponge, pasted yellow ribbons on their SUV’s, flags on their houses, and sat back and watched the carnage and their tax dollars go down the sewer.
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And now they are mad as hell. They are pathetic imbeciles shouting at the wrong time and at the wrong man.  Obama is not the problem.  It was George W. Bush and Dick ‘Dick’ Cheney.
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Protests my ass!
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20 thoughts on “Where Were the Tea Party Protesters?

  1. Hello Muddy,
    Just as I quickly pointed out just ONE example of Sepp’s many incorrect nihilistic statements of his last posting, he at least conceded that my correction was accurate….but I guess that all of his other ranting statements should be considered accurate. Maybe we are supposed to subscribe and assimilate to his narcissism and because he made the statement, that makes it an enough of a fact to support his arguments. Again the key word here is “Nihilistic.”

    I see too many of these type of people at my Republican Party meetings and gatherings. One will make an obvious wildly inaccurate statement but this soon starts a feeding frenzy of bobble heads confirming this statement continued with more inaccurate embellishments. But a little Socratic Irony interjected into the conversation just leaves the lemmings confused and dazed, without much more to say on the subject.

    I really find it quite humorous but with conflicting realization of how dangerous the self perpetuation of inaccurate statements that cause this feeding frenzy which can soon become out of control bordering on a lynch mob mentality. Hence forth, the Teabaggers. They are truly a cancer on my Republican Party.

    Many of the Republican leadership view them like the preverbal “Holding A Tiger By The Tail.” They don’t want to hold on, but they sure in hell don’t want to let go. They really don’t want to be associated with this stupid, goofy, whipped up nut job, demographic segment, but they sure don’t want all that fanatical, ranting, anger directed at them. Catch 22.

  2. Some of the people WERE there Muck! Most of the tea people are new to the protest scene, many of them were repelled by what and who they saw protesting the Bush policies.

    Sure, many of them hated the patriot act, domestic spys and, going to war with Iraq…and still hate that crap. But, I HAVE seen the folks who shown up at the Bush protests and can’t blame the average American for NOT wanting to be seen and associated with the CPUSA, the SPUSA, ANSWER etc or, be seen walking next to a huge “FUCK BUSH” sign with a vagina painted on it.
    Where were they you ask? They were home because the elements that showed up to supposedly protest policy were just as repellant as the man being protested against!
    I’ll ask, if the KKK held a political oppinion towards BUSH that YOU agreed with…would you join them in their march? Would you allow the media to put YOUR face onscreen and associate YOU with the KKK?

    THAT is why you seldom saw TEA partiers at protests.

    Remember this from 2006 Muck?
    http://uncommonsqualor.blogspot.com/2006/11/judged-by-company-you-keep.html

  3. And EoK, who cares what your republican party friends say? (if you’re even telling the truth)
    I can easily explain why your supposed Republican friends would have an axe to grind with me (and my type as if you even have a clue what that is)…I’m NOT a Republican!
    And, I doubt you’re one too…so your creds are crap as far as I’m concerned since you’re trying to play one and doing a terrible job at acting the role!

  4. Did i remember? Sure I did. But where were these Tea Party people then? And, as 75% consider themselves Republican, I’m sure that they were just peachy with the Bush War.

    By the way, Engineer is a Republican who has been waging a struggle to wrestle back his once -grand old Party from the ugly knot of goons who hijacked it some years ago.

    The folks who marched with me back in 2002 and 2003 weren’t Republicans, I can assure you of that. So these johnny-come-lately Tea folks were sitting on their fat asses singing God Bless America.

  5. My expereince of the Tea party crowd comes from their attempts to block any health care reform: in particular one of my wife’s aunts and her husband.

    I have believed that health care reform has been needed in the US since the Nixon years, which is ironic as Nixon supported health care reform (so much for it being socialistic or communistic). One of our tenant farmer’s wife died of cancer along with racking up a medical bill of over $100,000. We could cut him slack on the rent, but he still was indebetted for the farm equipment. Naturally, he lost his farm.

    More recently, my wife’s nephew is suffering from Necrotizing Fasciitis. Both his mother and my wife work for a large pharmaceutical company and have decent health insurance. Decent enough that we pay the tax on it. Still, the nephew is in U of MD Shock Trauma ICU and has been for nearly a month.

    So, even with this level of health care coverage, his family will still be stuck with huge medical bills. Our insurance only pays 80% of the bill.

    The tea party relative’s response: why don’t we sue?

    Quite frankly, I see Sepp as offering us policies which have been tried and found extremely wanting. Additionally, the fractional reserve banking system REQUIRES regulation to function.

    Even more sickening is sepp’s attitude toward the poor.

    Sorry sepp, but the market economy you claim to support requires buyers as well as sellers.

    I seriously wonder about what Sepp’s motivations are. The Chiinese government has something called the 50 cent army who do what he does. Fortunately, the tea party whores work for free.

    Sepp, you have a long way to go to begin to persuade me that you advocate policies which are beneficial.

    In fact, I wonder who you are really working for.

  6. There really is a lot of left wing animosity toward Obama; maybe not in the mainstream media however. I don’t have cable, but I guess Keith Olberman dedicated almost a whole show to the Obama assassination decree. Many many left leaning bloggers are very upset with the administration because of the ongoing war and the continuing government secrecy policies carried over from the previous administration. The mainstream media love Obama because he is in essence a Wall street friendly moderate, not the socialist boogie man he is being painted as. I often wonder if the Far Right media is just used by the Political / Business elite as a means for the people who are irrationally far right to blow off steam and bang their head. My dad, who is very conservative, his political opposition consists of sitting in an easy chair and agreeing with Shawn Hannity. Maybe that’s the plan behind the Hannitys and the Becks.. Keep people’s attention on the boogie man, and not what is actually going on (cough) Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Lehman Bros, etc.. . (cough)..

    I personally wrote a letter to President Obama and said that I was appalled at his extrajudicial assassination order, how un-American it was, and how it makes a mockery of the sacrifices of our past hero’s who died in defense of the constitution and freedom from tyranny. I also wrote Obama and said that I feel the Tea Party is a political opportunity for him. People are upset – no doubt about that, but they are upset at the wrong things in my opinion. The truth is, most people love the government welfare state when it benefits them in a meaningful way (my dad and his Medicare knees). And people are willing to pay for those services via taxes. People are upset that all that stimulus money went to the banks and AIG – with good reason, because there is no tangible benefit to them and it just smells of widespread corporate socialism.. Same thing with the stimulus money – it’s not a concrete benefit like a prescription drug or a titanium knee or a check in the mailbox. Obama needs to address these concerns and make himself a president for these people as well and not just blow them off. Sure there are some racist elements to the Tea Party movement. I don’t believe that as a group they are ALL racists, not even a small percentage. But I believe it is a reaction to the radical change of having a minority president. It’s a shake up of their Beaver Cleaver world view. It’s undeniable. It’s not necessarily racism, but it is reactionary mobilization due to change going on in the country. The white majority just needs to wake up to the fact that the demographics of the country are changing. Along the same lines, the illegal immigrants aren’t going anywhere as well. There was a same sort of reaction when the Irish / Catholic mass immigration occurred. But now, a century and a half later, the Irish are as much a part of the fabric of the Nation as the original Anglo protestant settlers.

  7. Hello Muddy,
    Yes, as we know well that I am a very active member of the Republican Party for more years than Rush Limbaugh and have worked on many projects within the Party.

    Now Muddy, as you have well noted Sepp’s statement, “And EoK, who cares what your republican party friends say? (if you’re even telling the truth)…And, I doubt you’re one too…so your creds are crap as far as I’m concerned since you’re trying to play one and doing a terrible job at acting the role!”

    This is the perfect example of how the Teabaggers and their likes, have to make nihilistic statements and fabricated facts as if this supports their arguments. Any person who has taken English 101 dealing with logical argumentation, know this technique as, “A Straw Man Argument.” One makes up an outlandish scenario or statement as if the opposition was affiliated with it, then easily knocks it down thinking that this wins them a debating point.

    Sepp, It would appear that you have not had any advanced education past high school English, but by calling you out on this “Straw Man” argument, in the logical debating arena, you have just been disproven, yet once again, negating your argument for its lack of merit.

    Of course by my pointing out the weakness of Sepp’s statements and arguments, he reverts to the childish playground tactics of, “I need to get over myself.” Weak minds mock what they don’t understand is the quote here.

  8. Politico conducted a survey of the Tea Party goers in DC this weekend and found out, surprise surprise, that 74% of them voted for George Bush in ’04.

    Gosh. Imagine that.

    And what was it, again, that they are so angry about??

  9. Hello Muddy,
    What you have just demonstrated quite well from a science point of view is “Occam’s Razor.”

    Very simply, “Occam’s Razor” is a logical principle attributed to the mediaeval philosopher William of Occam. The principle states that one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

    Occam’s razor helps us to “shave off” those concepts, variables or constructs that are not really needed to explain the phenomenon. By doing that, developing the model will become much easier, and there is less chance of introducing inconsistencies, ambiguities and redundancies.

    As you have so accurately pointed out….The majority of the people in this country voted for the man in the White House…and their candidate lost. Hence the rise of the Teabaggers.

  10. Muddy, is your axe to grind with these people simply because many of them are new to protesting?
    I find it rather strange that after 8 years of constant anger and frustration with the government, you’re no longer angry even though the exact same B.S is going on the USED to piss you off.
    Do you no longer care or, do you only care WHO is doing it? Your anger has gone away from the government and is now aimed at those who are angry too.
    You voted for “change” and have gotten very little of it and so did a lot of other folks who AREN’T content to keep putting up with business as usual.

    So Laci, I had no idea that “experience” could be obtained by simply seeing something on tv.
    Certainly the healthcare system has issues. You won’t find a posting where I’ve ever denied that.
    My axe to grind with the healthcare bill that they’re sticking us with is that it’s crap plain and simple.
    It was rushed and cobbled together, full of all kinds of pet pork projects, contains some very serious violations to people’s privacy and on and on.
    The mentality involved was hurry hurry, hurry, read it later and we’ll “fix” it as we go. You’d never board and airplane constructed under those “exacting” specifications I’d bet!
    My take on the healthcare bill -was and still is- that they could have done a lot better in it’s development. Creating deadlines to get it done so 1 man could make a minor claim in history resulted in a rushed piece of crap filled with surprises that have nothing to do with health or, healthcare.

    “Quite frankly, I see Sepp as offering us policies which have been tried and found extremely wanting.
    “Even more sickening is sepp’s attitude toward the poor.”

    You should slow that imagination down before it runs too far away from you laci. I’ve offered no policy and haven’t mentioned any “attitude” toward the poor!
    In other words, you assume too much.

    “Sorry sepp, but the market economy you claim to support requires buyers as well as sellers.”

    And our market based economy has worked pretty well for a long time hasn’t it? As opposed to command economies and the structured nationalized economies of the former east bloc and others which not only kept those nations in poverty but, completely fell apart because they were unsustainable.
    Our economy has always had it’s high and low points but, survives mainly because it’s a free market and consumers have multiple choices and, businesses are forced to compete via prices, services and demand…which is why 10 years ago something like a cell phone that cost $150 only costs $10 today. Nothing the government has ever sold and controlled has gotten cheaper. If you can name something, please do.

    Steve, if the animosity is there, I’ve yet to see or, hear any of it. I would think that if that were the case, the talk radio crowd would be all over it with the “told ya so’s”.
    I agree wholeheartedly that the tv suits are nothing more than a distraction away from whats going on behind the scenes.

    I do find it commendable that you wrote the president and let your feelings be known. Most folks have given up on that concept.

    Sure, maybe there are some racists out there who think they have a home within the tea folks…I’ve yet to see or, hear of one receiving a warm welcome. Also one the same note, the left has called any dissention of Obama “racist” even where it wasn’t possible to associate race with the issue being discussed. “Racism” seems to have become the “easy out” for far too many people. Demanding accountability from the govt is “racist”? The constitution is “racist”? Low taxes are racist?
    All the aforementioned things…last i checked…benefitted everyone without exclusion!

    Back to Muddy,
    “Politico conducted a survey of the Tea Party goers in DC this weekend and found out, surprise surprise, that 74% of them voted for George Bush in ‘04.
    Gosh. Imagine that.
    And what was it, again, that they are so angry about??”

    Getting screwed and misplacing their trust perhaps?

    While we’re there, Pew research released a poll yesterday that stated
    22% trust the government most of the time
    25% see congress in a favorable light
    52%, of the public believes it’s the members of Congress that are the problem and not the institution itself.
    38% said that most members have good intentions but the political system is what’s broken.
    “The tea party movement is a “wild card” this year, and 57% of those that agree with the movement are much more likely to say that the federal government presents a major threat to their personal freedom.”

    EoK, your right, I didn’t finnish college. Instead I ended up married, raising kids and working my ass off to provide for them.
    Just don’t let laci see you looking down on me for being “poor” and disadvantaged (your GOP side comming out?) but, I imagine you’ll get a pass since I’m not poor, disadvantaged and liberal!

    Maybe you can explain exactly what it is that the tea partiers are doing that is running counter to your values? As a Republican “taking back his party”, I’ve yet to see where the “old” party’s platform was based on higher taxes, bigger government, and more government involvement in your personal life…so what is it Mr Republican?

  11. So, you going to offer rebuttal to my post or, just try and deflect the subject in a different direction in order to avoid an answer?

  12. Hello Sepp,
    You are Croatian? Interesting…I spent time in Split, Yugoslavia during the Josip Tito years. It had to be in 1976 and I was in the U.S. Navy. It would have been right after I did my time and what I was supposed to do in South America. I was with MIUW 604 (Mobil Inshore Undersea Warfare)

    To this day I still tell the personal story of when I was in a bar in Split. I stand 5’-11” and I was the shortest person in the bar by far. Everyone else was taller, very dark hair, and my money was no good in the place. By this I am meaning everyone wanted to buy me a drink, ask me questions about what America was like, where I lived, etc. I was in my full dress “Dark Blues” uniform with metals. They would hold up their thumbs and say, “Americana” turn their thumbs down and say, “Ruskie” (I took my best guess on the spelling here) The one person who could speak English in the bar asked me where I lived and I told him in Maryland…and went on to explain, close to Washington D.C. and one of the original 13 colonies. He then asked me what we thought of the British. I said that these colonies were of British decedents; our laws were based on English laws, etc. I said we kind of view the British as distant cousins.

    Because of the thumbs up for me being American and thumbs down for Russia; I then ask him, “With Yugoslavia being communist and the Russian’s influence in the country, do you see the Russians as friends or distant relatives?” He thought for a minute then replied, “You could say we view them like distant relatives….You get to choose your friends!!”

    About this time a blond haired, blue eye guy came into the bar and he was about my height. It soon became apparent that he was not welcome in this bar and three of the taller dark haired men in the bar met him at the door and it was apparent they were telling him to get out …Things did escalate to the point that one of the dark haired men slapped the blond haired guy along side of his head and he left at that point.

    I figured that this was enough; I thanked everyone for the drinks and soon left myself. I am guessing that the blond haired guy was a Serb and I never did know about the tall dark haired men in the bar.

    Maybe you can shed some light on this. What other group of people would be in Split? I have always wondered about this. I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on this.

  13. No, I’m not a Croat. Someone just assumed something. However, I do speak serbo-croat and lived there for a year.

    Split is a tourist area and was a major destination for east bloc citizens back in the day so to speak.
    All tourist areas have bars where the tourists go and regular bars where the locals go. It’s possible that they were letting a tourist know that he should go find a tourist’s bar.
    The girls who frequent the tourist bars are mostly whores. And when a tourist goes into a “local’s” bar sometimes they can’t tell the difference and someone ends up insulted. So sometimes tourists are shown the door before anything stupid is said or, happens.
    EoK, I’m 6′ 2″ and was “almost average” by Croat and Serb standards. Those folks are the tallest in Europe.

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